高云清2018年4月18日专访杨安泽

作者：  来源：来稿照登

　　高：今天是2018年4月8日。我们在美丽的克莱蒙特海滩的海滨。太好了，我有机会采访杨安泽先生。嗨，你好吗安泽？
　　杨：我很好。
　　高：谢谢，谢谢。很高兴见到你。我看见你拿着一本书。你能告诉我这本书是讲什么的吗？
　　杨：当然。这是本周刚刚出版的书“对普通人的战争”。它讲述了自动化如何夺走了数百万个工作。唐纳德·川普之所以能成为我们今天的总统，是因为自动化使在密歇根、俄亥俄、宾夕法尼亚和其他工业基地400万个制造业工人失去了工作。自动化将对零售、卡车驾驶、快餐和客服中心的员工产生同样的影响。我竞选总统的原因是帮助美国人应对这些挑战，并针对这些挑战，做出必要的调整，使美国能够在技术不断进步中继续繁荣。
　　高：你能告诉我你的教育背景吗？
　　杨：当然。我在布朗大学读大学，在那里我学习经济和政治学。后来在哥伦比亚大学法学院就读。在创办企业之前，我曾为纽约市长布朗做过法律服务。后来我加盟的一家教育公司2009年被《华盛顿邮报》收购。
　　高：作为一个华裔美国人，你能说一口流利的汉语吗？
　　杨：我小时候上过中文学校。但学得不好。事实上，我父母更注重提高他们的英语水平，因为他们都在美国公司工作。他们让我和哥哥从小讲英语。
　　高：我想很多像你这样的华裔二代都有同样的问题。
　　杨：有点，但我哥哥比我强。
　　高：作为新一代的亚裔华人，你想为华人社区做些什么？
　　杨：我认为移民的孩子们在经济上和职业上都面临着被期待成功的压力。但是社区中必须有人站出来，努力成为政治领袖、创新者和那种能够在最高层次上真正代表社区的人。证明我们和其他人一样是美国人。我们是爱国者；作为移民子女我们在这个国家长大。老实说，我们知道这个国家需要的愿景。
　　高：好吧，那么和唐纳德·川普相比，你认为你的优势是什么？
　　杨：唐纳德·川普了解美国的问题。这就是他今天成为总统的原因。但他的解决方案是无稽之谈，比如筑墙，憎恨移民，将时间倒转，试图把永远不会回来的工作找回来。所以，对我来说，我最大的优势是我要说，看，我们需要把向前看，加快政府和社会的改革步伐，帮助美国人适应这个科技进步的时代。目前大多数美国人，70%的美国人认为在未来10年中科技发展带来的事业将大余创造的新就业机会。人们开始意识到必须面这一对新的现实，而我给出的切实可行的解决方案将的事实使我在获得选民认可上产生巨大的优势。
　　高：你为选举做什么准备？你想进入2020年吗，杨先生，你已经做了什么准备？
　　杨：我有一个团队，我有来自全国各地的华裔美国人的捐款，也有来自南卡罗来纳州、明尼苏达州、蒙大拿州的非华裔美国人的捐款，是的，每天都有捐款。自从我们二月份开始竞选以来，我的竞选活动充满了激动和热情。我有一个得力的团队，我有世界级的顾问，无论是在政治上还是在技术行业有很多人都非常支持我的竞选。
　　高：很好，我们也会帮助你的。
　　杨：很高兴听到你们的支持。我是一个非常自豪的华裔美国人。我们需要展示我们能做什么。我们是美国人，我们是爱国者，我们可以成为最高层领袖。
　　高：我们住在这个国家。这就是我们的国家。
　　杨：这是我们的国家。
　　高：和我的孩子一样，他们出生在这里，所以我们真的想为美国做点什么。现在，你认为美国的主要问题是什么？
　　杨：美国需要我们站出来。因为经济结构的变化将迫使更多的低教育和低技能水平的美国人进入非常危险的境地。这真的是个大问题，我在书中用各种数据把它写得很清楚。不知什么原因，美国人都不谈这个。我们华裔美国人可以帮助他们看到，因为我们从经济的角度，从技术的角度来思考，我们为他们阐明问题的核心。
　　高：你有几个孩子？
　　杨：我有两个，一个五岁的女孩和一个两岁的男孩。这也是我竞选总统的原因之一。我对他们将要成长其中的国家深感担忧。我知道你有四个孩子，你可能也有同样的感觉。
　　高：当然。
　　杨：这个国家现在需要我们站出来。现在情况不太好。
　　高：这是我第一次采访你。我会继续采访你。
　　杨：那太好了。
　　高：祝你好运。
　　杨：是的，请不要忘记竞选活动。从现在到2020年，我们将有很多激动人心的时刻。
　　高:  好的，谢谢。

　　YG: Today is April 8th, 2018. We are in the beautiful Clermont Beach, ocean front. It is very nice; I have an opportunity to interview Mr. Andrew Yang. Hi, how are you Andrew?
　　AY: I am doing great.
　　YG: Thank you, thank you. Nice meeting you. I saw you are holding a book. Can you tell me what is this book talking about?
　　AY: Sure. The book just came out this week, “The War on Normal People”. It talks about how we are automating away millions jobs. The reason Donald Trump is our president today is because we automated 4 million manufacturing jobs in Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and other industrial bases.  We are going to do the same thing to workers in retail, truck driving, fast food, and call centers. The reason I run for presidency is to help Americans to address these challenges, and hopefully confront them and make the adjustments necessary so that the country can continue to thrive even as the technology advancing through.
　　YG: Can you tell me about your education background?
　　AY: Sure. I went college at Brown University, where I studied Economic and Political sciences, and attended law school at Columbia. I practiced law for mayor Brown of New York City before I started a series of  start-ups. I worked for an educational company that was acquired by Washington Post in 2009.
　　YG: As a Chinese American, do you really speak good Chinese?
　　AY: I went to the Chinese school as a kid. But I was very good at it. My parents are actually preferred to get better at their English because they both worked at American companies. They had my brother and I speak English as kids.
　　YG: I guess a lot of Chinese generation like you had the same thing; have the same problem like you.
　　AY: A little bit. My brother is better than I am though.
　　YG: As a new generation of Asian Chinese, what you want to do for Chinese community?
　　AY: I think that children of immigrants are under pressure to succeed economically and professionally. But at certain point, people in the community have to step-up to and try to become political leaders, innovators, and sort of people that can really represent community at the highest possible level. And show that we are as Americans as anyone else. We are patriots; our children of immigrants are grown up in this country, and we have a vision for this country and that country needs, honestly.
　　YG: Ok, So like compare to Donald Trump, what do you think is your advantage?
　　AY: Donald Trump got the problems right. That is the reason he is the president today. But his solutions are nonsense, like build the wall, hate immigrants, and turn clock backward, and bring back the jobs that are never going to come back. So for me, my biggest advantage is I would say look, we need to turn the clock forward, and accelerate our government and society to allow Americans to transition through this era of technological advances. Most Americans now, 70% of Americans believe technology is going to destroy many jobs than it creates in the next 10 years. So people are waking up to the reality and the fact that I suggesting real solutions will give me vast approval vast advantages.
　　YG: What do you prepare for the election? Do you want to go into 2020 Mr. Yang, what you already did to prepare for this?
　　AY: I have a team, I have donation come in from across the country from Chinese Americans but also non-Chinese Americans in South Carolina, Minnesota, Montana, yes donation every day. There is being so much excitement and enthusiasm around my campaign since we launched in February. I have a great team, I have world class advisers, both politically and also in the technology industry, because many technology voters are very supportive of my campaign.
　　YG: It is very nice; we are going to help you also.
　　AY: It is great to hear, I am a very proud Chinese American. We need to show what we can do. We are Americans, we are patriots, and we can lead at the highest level.
　　YG: We are living in this country. This is our country.
　　AY: This is our country.
　　YG: The same like my kids, they born in here so we are really want to do something for America. And right now, what you think is the major problem in America?
　　AY: America needs us to step up because major problem is that the economy is changing in the ways that is going to push many more Americans with low education and low skill levels into very daring conditions. That is really the huge problem, the numbers are spelled out clearly, which I spelled out in my book, and Americans for whatever reason are not talking about it. And this is something we Chinese Americans can help them to see, because we think in economic terms, in technological terms, and we spell it out for them that this is actually the core of issue.
　　YG: How many kids you have?
　　AY: I have two, a five year old girl and a two year old boy. That is one of reasons I run for president that I am deeply concerned about country they are going to grow up with. I know you have four children and you probably feel the same way.
　　YG: Sure.
　　AY: This country needs us to step up right now. It is not going well right now.
　　YG: This is the first time I interview you. And I am going to keep continue to interview you.
　　AY: That would be great.
　　YG: I wish you good luck.
　　AY: Yea, please stay breathed with the campaign. We have many exciting time between now and 2020.
　　YG: Ok, thank you.

来源时间：2019/9/12   发布时间：2019/9/12

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